tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38586079.post8725946470230995680..comments2024-01-22T15:27:00.730+08:00Comments on One size doesn't fit all: R.I.P. Oracle Reports?Chris Muirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06566648350240654621noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38586079.post-20909204698623435612017-06-22T01:33:34.920+08:002017-06-22T01:33:34.920+08:00Oracle Reports is being unsupported by 2020/2023 a...Oracle Reports is being unsupported by 2020/2023 and will no longer be maintained :(BAShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04723978214830183719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38586079.post-10736973260404929662008-07-20T21:08:00.000+08:002008-07-20T21:08:00.000+08:00Chris - like you I have a lot of respect for Oracl...Chris - like you I have a lot of respect for Oracle Reports. Fortunately, as an app server admin type, I generally don't have to go near the reports builder which has been neglected really since the Developer/2000 days. I think the reports server itself (including after the java rebuild of chunks of it) is pretty powerful and stable, e.g. I have a couple of customers who produce thousands of PDFs a day out of it. I've found Oracle Support uninterested recently though, even when I've found bugs and suggested fixes.<BR/><BR/>Like <B>jcflack</B> I've been looking for an alternative but am not convinced Jasper is up to serious enterprise work yet, and find the BIP pricing astonishing. Maybe when BIP is renamed Fusion Publisher (which I think I read somewhere - it may just be speculation!) Oracle will realise the potential market they are missing out on and reduce the price or, for example, bundle it with OAS/FMW Standard Edition. Here's hoping...Simon Haslamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02902786906912245310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38586079.post-4122261669915791852008-07-16T21:54:00.000+08:002008-07-16T21:54:00.000+08:00I never liked Oracle Reports - the design tool and...I never liked Oracle Reports - the design tool and I never got along. I used to yearn for old SQL*Reports - yes RPT/RPF, but I admit that it couldn't handle images, fonts and other visual design elements.<BR/>When I started writing Web PL/SQL applications, first by hand and then generated from Oracle Designer, I started doing all my reports as PL/SQL Server Pages (PSPs). They have a lot of the functionality and design ease of RPT/RPF but can do any visual design that you can do in HTML. Actually, you could have used HTML instead of RPF with RPT to read your database. And I've seen PSPs that output the XML formats for MS Word or MS Excel instead of HTML.<BR/>Now that most of my new development is JEE/ADF, I need a new reporting tool. We're looking at Jasper and BIRT.John Flackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07116756139055371171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38586079.post-71007474387445684192008-07-16T15:10:00.000+08:002008-07-16T15:10:00.000+08:00While APEX is not a pure reporting tool, I see a l...While APEX is not a pure reporting tool, I see a lot of customers being very enthusiastic on the Interactive Report functionality. The possibility to adapt the report output on the fly is the strongest plus - not beaten by anything out there (yet)!<BR/>Just my 2 cents...<BR/>Regards,<BR/>RoelRoelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819238980013808276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38586079.post-20182226897591845902008-07-16T12:14:00.000+08:002008-07-16T12:14:00.000+08:00I think a lot of the in-house reports have moved t...I think a lot of the in-house reports have moved to BI tools, dashboards and screens in general.<BR/>I don't hear anyone saying "I want a PDF in my in-tray every Monday."<BR/>The bulk paper stuff gets extracted as CSV or XML and an external print shop formats the output, sticks it en envelopes and posts it.<BR/>'Fraid I won't miss Oracle Reports. The UI of all those nested boxes always got me frustrated. It could have done with a 3D interface.SydOraclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08828771074492585943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38586079.post-29145456822870335362008-07-16T11:52:00.000+08:002008-07-16T11:52:00.000+08:00"What other reporting tools has your organisation ..."What other reporting tools has your organisation adopted in replacement for Oracle Reports?"<BR/><BR/><BR/>Microsoft Report Server: bundled with enterprise edition SQL Server.<BR/><BR/>See? I keep saying Oracle has gotta come down to earth with their pricing structure: they are in absolute, total, la-la-land. <BR/><BR/>With the almost demise of Crystal Reports as an enterprise tool in recent years, Oracle lost a golden opportunity to take over with a sensibly priced tool. <BR/><BR/>Guess who took advantage of that?<BR/><BR/>Of course I'm talking about Australia, more specifically NSW. I'm sure in Outer Mongolia the situation is quite different. <BR/><BR/>I do recall pointing out that Fusion et all was a disaster, a long while ago. And being called all sorts of things by folks with no clue of what the market is all about. I guess I was right: even the most ardent supporters of that monolithic mamooth are now openly admitting it's a failure.<BR/><BR/>Wanna bet the rest of the country will eventually follow from NSW? <BR/><BR/>I'll be here then, with my memories...Noonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07694829378563989648noreply@blogger.com